he likes this, about akira, though. this is the ideal student, for lu bixing - someone who wants to learn. someone who deeply thinks about theories and questions and gives them their best, even if they don't entirely understand them.
he's quiet to give him time to think, though he gives him a little nudge to make sure his eyes stay on the road. please don't knock us over or run into a giant plant or something. and... the answer makes him hum a little. ]
I'm inclined to agree. [ a ship of theseus. something - somewhere, or even someone, rebuilt. ] It might even be a better ship. And, if Theseus still sees it as his own, it is still, in its essence, his ship, I think. The fact that he put the effort in to fix it in order to try and save something so important to him matters.
So, if we apply that to a planet - it might never be the same. But as long as the resources to sustain life can be there, and people still want to be there, then, I think it can be done.
[DON'T PANIC, IT'S COOL IT'S COOL... they have not left yet just because he wanted to have an existential chat. Unfortunately for Lu Bixing. "he likes it" unfortunately for him]
...
[He gazes out into the middle distance, his eyes shifting over things he isn't really paying much visual attention to actually. Then for a moment, he looks like he's debating, hesitant. He glances at Lu Bixing, then away at the dash of the bike as if he might simply start it up and go.]
...Ryo and I finished destroying our world. I want to bring it back, but I don't know if I can. I haven't asked Satan yet if you can exchange a do-over for changing time, or... creating something.
and...well, this is also why he's so fond of akira, because that kind of outlook feels familiar, touches something that it feels like he lost, a long time ago. ]
...I guess that would depend on what condition you want it in. I don't know the extent of what he can or can't do, but you have to be careful - anytime you strike some kind of deal like that, you have to make sure you phrase it exactly the way you want it. If the same conditions that destroyed it were present and there was a redo, would it just happen again?
[ a pause. ]
...Would that be in exchange for you staying here?
[He sort of nods solemnly in response to the last question.]
...If Ryo exists, it will probably happen again. So I want to put Earth back without Ryo. But I'm no better than he is, and I can't leave him to be punished alone. So I want to make one without the two of us. Without... demons. Just an earth for the humans.
But... if Ryo also wins, he will want something different.
...huh. well. it makes their little game that they had to play back on that space ship make even more sense. he's quiet for a moment, thoughtful. ]
I see. [ ... ] Beyond - the rest of it, in its simplest terms, I don't think Ryo would want a world without you in it.
[ just based on their conversations. but. he also seriously doubts ryo wants to be dead. so! wow! what a predicament! what is devilman crybaby about. ] That is immensely complicated. And... I'm guessing your world's not quite far along enough to just hop off to another planet in terms of technology, either, huh.
[It's an honest answer. He isn't looking at Lu Bixing when he says it. Complicated Devilman things.]
There isn't anything left to go to another planet anyway. Not... for me. Ryo is a different story. He's from... a different time? He's from my past. So the world is still there for him for now. But we didn't have the tech to jump ship, no. Not like that.
[ what a heavy, heavy burden of decision, for someone so young to have to bear.
lu bixing shifts a little where he's sitting on the bike, and after a moment, hooks an arm around him to give him a hug. it could also just be holding in for whenever they take off, but... it's a good dad hug and he doesn't really have to hide that from akira, of all people. ]
Ryo mentioned something like that. [ time problems. he and lin are lucky, maybe. at least they died together. ] ...Have you two talked about it?
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he likes this, about akira, though. this is the ideal student, for lu bixing - someone who wants to learn. someone who deeply thinks about theories and questions and gives them their best, even if they don't entirely understand them.
he's quiet to give him time to think, though he gives him a little nudge to make sure his eyes stay on the road. please don't knock us over or run into a giant plant or something. and... the answer makes him hum a little. ]
I'm inclined to agree. [ a ship of theseus. something - somewhere, or even someone, rebuilt. ] It might even be a better ship. And, if Theseus still sees it as his own, it is still, in its essence, his ship, I think. The fact that he put the effort in to fix it in order to try and save something so important to him matters.
So, if we apply that to a planet - it might never be the same. But as long as the resources to sustain life can be there, and people still want to be there, then, I think it can be done.
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...
[He gazes out into the middle distance, his eyes shifting over things he isn't really paying much visual attention to actually. Then for a moment, he looks like he's debating, hesitant. He glances at Lu Bixing, then away at the dash of the bike as if he might simply start it up and go.]
...Ryo and I finished destroying our world. I want to bring it back, but I don't know if I can. I haven't asked Satan yet if you can exchange a do-over for changing time, or... creating something.
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and...well, this is also why he's so fond of akira, because that kind of outlook feels familiar, touches something that it feels like he lost, a long time ago. ]
...I guess that would depend on what condition you want it in. I don't know the extent of what he can or can't do, but you have to be careful - anytime you strike some kind of deal like that, you have to make sure you phrase it exactly the way you want it. If the same conditions that destroyed it were present and there was a redo, would it just happen again?
[ a pause. ]
...Would that be in exchange for you staying here?
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...If Ryo exists, it will probably happen again. So I want to put Earth back without Ryo. But I'm no better than he is, and I can't leave him to be punished alone. So I want to make one without the two of us. Without... demons. Just an earth for the humans.
But... if Ryo also wins, he will want something different.
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...huh. well. it makes their little game that they had to play back on that space ship make even more sense. he's quiet for a moment, thoughtful. ]
I see. [ ... ] Beyond - the rest of it, in its simplest terms, I don't think Ryo would want a world without you in it.
[ just based on their conversations. but. he also seriously doubts ryo wants to be dead. so! wow! what a predicament! what is devilman crybaby about. ] That is immensely complicated. And... I'm guessing your world's not quite far along enough to just hop off to another planet in terms of technology, either, huh.
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I think that's the problem.
[It's an honest answer. He isn't looking at Lu Bixing when he says it. Complicated Devilman things.]
There isn't anything left to go to another planet anyway. Not... for me. Ryo is a different story. He's from... a different time? He's from my past. So the world is still there for him for now. But we didn't have the tech to jump ship, no. Not like that.
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lu bixing shifts a little where he's sitting on the bike, and after a moment, hooks an arm around him to give him a hug. it could also just be holding in for whenever they take off, but... it's a good dad hug and he doesn't really have to hide that from akira, of all people. ]
Ryo mentioned something like that. [ time problems. he and lin are lucky, maybe. at least they died together. ] ...Have you two talked about it?